I think, uh, you know, like that big blue circular pedal, that's a, it's a classic. Uh, like everybody knows what the blue face fuzz pedal thing is. Um, so I got to mention that, but I got two others that I'm just loving. Malcom: I knew we had to, so I needed to save something and I was holding back and I kind of got me cause we talked about, uh, that Trump forge plugin, we both picked up. How did you not mention that? How did I bring the past hour? We got into all sorts of rabbit holes and stuff.

Benedikt: how did you, okay, so you don't know this guys, but we record two episodes in a row today.

I got new gear, new plugins, I should say. And I'm here with my friend and cohost Malcolm Owen flood. The show where we help you make exciting records on your own. Benedikt: This is the self recording band podcast. Malcom: If you are one of those types of folks that writes music on your own, this could potentially be a way to speed up your workflow a lot, which is amazing because anything that speeds up the workflow and just makes getting ideas down quicker, it's going to lead to creativity.